I use this powder in my 6mm dasher bench gun. Powder Valley Inc. (PVI) and Midsouth Shooters both have plenty of IMR 4166 in stock right now. Really like this powder, the accuracy it produces is amazing I will lots more if I can find it. 4451 is the medium burning powder, for medium cartridges like the .30-06 Springfield and the .270 Winchester. This is a true magnum propellant yielding outstanding performance in 6.5-300 Weatherby, 264 Win Mag, 28 Nosler and 300 Rem Ultra Mag, among other cartridges. Whether youre reloading for the first time or an experienced reloader who desires elite powder, IMR is a company that should be on your radar. Between 1/3 and 1/2 MOA for 5 shot groups at 200yd. forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/imr4166-loads-for-223.4053707/, Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/103.0.0.0 Safari/537.36. For example, IMR 4166 is a good replacement for Hodgdon Varget (commonly used in the .223 Rem, 6mmBR and .308 Win), while IMR 4955 is a fine substitute for H4831 (favored by F-Open shooters for the .284 Win and 7mm WSM cartridges). The main features of the Enduron series are copper fouling eliminator, insensitivity to temperature changes, ideal loading density and being environmentally friendly. of Varget. (see note 1 ). First used in battle in 1805 by United States naval forces against pirates off the coast of Algiers, DuPont supplied more than 80% of Allied Forces powder needs in World War I. 4166 is the fastest burning powder, for cartridges like .223 Remington and .308 Winchester. It's been over two years of this ammo & reloading nightmare. The IMR series of handloading powders were the only choice to wring full performance out of rifle calibers. One member wrote: in my 6.547 IMR 4166 gives speeds and accuracy pretty much exactly the same as Varget. And other shooters have observed reduced copper fouling with Enduron series powders, so IMRs Enduron anti-fouling chemistry does seem to work. IMR states that IMR 4166 is a versatile, match grade propellant. Load data should be forthcoming pretty soon. msinc worst groups at .5 moa most groups around the .3 moa mark. This powder is comparable to Hodgdon H4350. So they would likely show much larger swings than what these four top-performing powders showed. View Product Warning DEALER LOCATOR I'm very happy with this powder. In fact, E. I. duPont arrived in America in 1800 determined to make an improved gunpowder and, by 1802, was producing gunpowder in a new plant along the Brandywine River in Wilmington, Delaware (this plant morphed into what is today the GOEX brand of black powder). The main features of the Enduron series are copper fouling eliminator, insensitivity to temperature changes, ideal loading density and being environmentally friendly. Great stuff! both should give you specific info. The manual allows for stiffer charges, but at 25.1 the load begins to compress. With Varget so hard to find, if IMR 4166 proves accurate (and available) we might see many .308 Win shooters make the switch. Give it a try if you've already purchased it. OAL 2770 Sierra Case It is also outstanding in cartridges like the 444 Marlin and 7.62 X 39. My factory sierra high 2576 VISIT THE RDC WHITE HOTS White Hots 50/50 is a 50 Caliber, 50 grain pellet for muzzleloaders. Awsome powder in my book. Naturally the next step was to combine the two for a new line of powders. . Every week of WW II, as many munitions were used as in all of WW I. Thanks, T.B. Thanks, Was looking for an equivalent powder from H4895 when I ran into the 4166. ALL THE LOAD DATA YOU'LL EVER NEED ALL IN ONE PLACE! This is a true magnum propellant yielding outstanding performance in 6.5-300 Weatherby, .264 Win Mag, 28 Nosler and .300 Rem Ultra Mag, among other cartridges. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); this stuff is not affected temp at all. Reloading for 223/556 Service Rifle Competition (NRA/CMP bullseye . We need to get back to the good old days! It may not display this or other websites correctly. Share the post "Guide to IMRs Enduron Powders What You Need to Know", Powder Valley Inc. (PVI) now has the new IMR 4166 powder. An acronym for. Perhaps the new IMR 4166 will be as good or better. Subscribe to the free newsletter and do not miss any news or promotions. Each of these are still favorites with handloaders today! IMR 4166 was released a few years ago as a temperature insensitive powder that is expected to replace 4064. In 2015, IMR will introduce three (3) new Enduron powders: IMR 4166, IMR 4451, and IMR 7977. I've had good luck with 8208 with 77gr SMK's and 69gr Nosler Competition Customs Hoon Rating - 100% 1 0 0 Joined Mar 2, 2013 Messages I was planning to switch to 4166 for my .308, but it seems that it has also become nearly impossible to source. the accuracy is the same as varget but the velocity is a bit higher with a couple of 10ths less powder. Mag. IMR 8133 IMR Enduron 8133 is the slowest burn rate in the Enduron family. I have heard the same criticism from other forum members. Other than that , great job, thanks. Whether a rifle is sighted in during the heat of summer, hunted in a November snowstorm or hunting multiple locations with drastic temperature swings, point of impact with ammunition loaded with Enduron technology will be very consistent. OK, we're down to 1/3 MOA with a bit more to go. It is available right now at Powder Valley in both one-pound ($25.45) and 8-pound ($182.75) containers: IMR4166-01: IMR 4166 1 LB. IMR 7977 performs comparably to Hodgdon H1000 but charge weights are materially different. var _gaq = _gaq || []; $182.75. I'm using this in my Tikka CTR 223 under 73 gr Berger BT target bullets. I hope to get some time on the new bull barrel AR. So they would likely show much larger swings than what these four top-performing powders showed. It is formulated to reduce fouling and to be stable across a wide temperature range. It is the perfect burn speed for cartridges such as .308 Win, 7.62mm NATO, 22-250 Rem and 257 Roberts. ALL Bulletin content is copyrighted, 2023 AccurateShooter.com. The IMR Enduron line is similar to Hodgdon's Extreme Extruded line, in that it is temperature insensitive. It is an extruded powder and is perfect for cartridges like 270 Winchester, 30-06 or 300 Winchester Short Magnum, among others. Share the post "Cant Find Varget for Sale? Today, only the newest reloading fuels can exceed that with a 55-grain bullet in the commercial .22-250. Loading density is perfect for magnums, contributing to superb uniformity. PRBs testers explain the full set of equipment and steps in their loading process in the Full Test Report. * All prices incl. Being a short-grain extruded powder it can be dumped from a powder measure; however I always opt to use a dispenser like the Hornady Auto charge. IMRs press release states: IMR 4166 [has] a perfect burn speed for cartridges like the 308 Win/7.62mm NATO, 22-250 Remington and dozens more.. So if your goal is first-shot hits and you may shoot in a variety of conditions you should care about temperature stable powders. Tried their 7977 in a magnum rifle and it had same accuracy as H1000. However, due to the super short kernels, metering is virtually as good as a spherical powder. Hodgdon's excellent online reloading data show only IMR 4007SSC, IMR 4166, IMR 8208XBR, and Hodgdon CFE 223 breaking 3,750 fps with a 55-grain bullet in a 24-inch test barrel. Average extreme velocity spread was only 19 fps for 15 Sierra 142-grain MatchKing bullets fired from prepared cases filled with precisely weighed IMR-4166 charges. Load . Shooters has been keeping it around $20/lb if you buy in quantity. It is an extruded powder with a perfect burn speed for cartridges like 308 Winchester, 7.62mm NATO, 22-250 Remington or 257 Roberts, among other cartridges. Clean and inspect the cases, lube and full-length resize/decap, clean, and inspect them again. works great in many cartridges with good to great accuracy. IMR 4451 Another new Enduron powder that gives top performance in the venerable .30-06, 270 Winchester, and 300 Winchester Short Magnum, to name just a few. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. They list loads for Sperry SP and Barnes TTSX in 55gr weights. The IMR 4166 shows loads for a 69 hpbt. The components in question make up my service rifle load in .223 and they are Hornadys 55 grain V-max bullet seated into a Lake City brass case at an OAL of 2.270 and ignited with a Wolf Small Rifle Primer. It is an extruded powder with a perfect burn speed for cartridges like 308 Winchester, 7.62mm NATO, 22-250 Remington or 257 Roberts, among other cartridges. .1 to .2 gr accuracy. The main features of the Enduron series are copper fouling eliminator, insensitivity to temperature changes, ideal loading density and being environmentally friendly. Final diagnosis: This powder is certainly a winner in the accuracy field, and if the cleanup continues to be this simple it is sure to find a home on my reloading bench. For more information and IMR 4166 LOAD DATA visit imrpowder.com or check the 2015 Hodgdon Annual Manual. When will Enduron powders appear on dealers shelves? Any gunpowder required by handloaders can be sourced through these brands. We are engineers, reloading enthusiasts and operate one of the most powerful ballistics calculators. First load. Tag: IMR 4166 Loading for the AR-15 with the LEE Auto-Drum Powder Measure. First, these powders all feature chemistry that reduces copper fouling. Youll also find official load data in the Hodgdon 2020 Annual Manual. then consider IMR 4166. If you commonly use Varget, Alliant Reloder 15, Norma 203B, IMR 8208 XBR, or Vihtavuori N140, you might want to try IMR 4166. PRBs test team also noticed other interesting trends in the data. 17 reviews. Bullets ranged from 50- 77 grain , same bullets shot very well with Varget anf H4895 . Re: IMR 4166 in .223. JavaScript is disabled. At the 2015 Shot Show they did just that and released the IMR Enduron Line. Assuming all other environmental conditions remain the same, an increase in air temperature will cause a flatter trajectory due to a lower air density (easier for the bullet to cut through the air). This allows up to 4% more powder space in the case and in many loads yields more velocity than standard 7828. Please help us to improve and report any suggestions via our contact form. Varget was always my go-to powder for .308 and .223, but anyone who reloads knows that Varget is virtually unobtainable now. Loading density is perfect for magnums, nicely filling the case at maximum charges, contributing to superb uniformity and accuracy. This propellant performs comparably to Hodgdon Varget but charge weights are materially different. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - IMR 4166 .223 Rem. Its loading density is perfect for magnum cartridges and contributes to superb uniformity, yielding outstanding performance in 300 Winchester Magnum, 7MM Remington Magnum and .338 Lapua Magnum. It is an extruded powder with a perfect burn speed for cartridges like 308 Winchester, 7.62mm NATO, 22-250 Remington or 257 Roberts, among other cartridges. imr 4166 for sale .223, .223 loading data imr 4166, .223 rem. This ensured the powder charges were identical for each round of ammo. Such loads are marked with an asterisk in the data to show where standard 7828 will not fit. 2. These are the first groups with this powder. var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is. Find load data for IMR 4166 Enduron propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:IMR Enduron 4166 is a versatile, match-grade propellant, with the fastest burn rate in the Enduron line. The main features of the Enduron series are copper fouling eliminator, insensitivity to temperature changes, ideal loading density and being environmentally friendly. Copper fouling should be minimal, allowing shooters to spend more time shooting and less time cleaning a rifle to retain accuracy. Minuteman. You can see Hodgdon H4350 had the least variance in muzzle velocity, with just 25 fps over the 115 swing in temperature! I paid $159.00 for 8# Varget at Shooters last time I was up there. That is very, very low. Find load data for IMR 4451 Enduron propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:IMR Enduron 4451 is a versatile, match-grade propellant with a mid-range burn speed in the Enduron line. 44gr 4166 Testing consisted of a single 5-shot group of each incrementmental charge weight just to get a rough feel for the potential of this powder. IMR recommends always consulting www.IMRReloading.com for the most accurate, up-to-date data. .45 ACP and .38 Super, while their rifle offerings range from .223 Remington to .30-06 Springfield. Find load data for IMR 8133 Enduron propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:IMR Enduron 8133 is the slowest burn rate in the Enduron family. Hodgdon Extreme Series powders have attracted quite a fan base, with over 90% of the top shooters in the Precision Rifle Series choosing to run one of those powders. With no pressure signs up to 45.8 grains of 4166 I decided to push further and see what I could get. In today's shooting you can clearly see the scatter that centers at 45.5 and the obvious OCW at 46.2. Will purchase more. A versatile, match-grade propellant, IMR 4166 is comparable to Hodgdon Varget. It is expected to perform well in the .308 Winchester and in 6mm cartridges running the heavier (95-107gr) projectiles. These new powders should compete directly with the Hodgdon Extreme Series, which gives shooters more temp-stable powder options to consider. Improved Military Rifle IMR 4166 Improved Military Rifle IMR 4320 Improved Military Rifle IMR 4350 Improved Military Rifle IMR 4451 Improved Military Rifle IMR 4831 Improved Military Rifle IMR 4895 Improved Military Rifle IMR 8208 XBR Improved Military Rifle SR 4759 Ramshot Big Game Ramshot TAC Ramshot X-Terminator Shooters World AR PLUS IMR now offers four Enduron powders that cover a broad range of burn rates. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. I went to the IMR site and it takes you to hodgdon's loading site. 3, e-mail Hornady and the powder mfg. Anyone seen/tried this combo? Really like this powder, the accuracy it produces is amazing I will lots more if I can find it. Has anyone left switched from 4064 to 4166 without losing accuracy? It was less accurate than 4 other powders. Or maybe have QuickLoad data? so I am thinking till powder does come available, load one or 2 levels under Max for a 223 into the 556 cases. _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); This website uses cookies to ensure the best experience possible. So far IMR4166 has worked great for me in the .243 Winchester with light bullets, the .257 Roberts with 75-100 grains bullets, .308 Winchester with 150's and 168's, the .303 British, 8x57 and .45-70 with "low pressure" loads. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. - 24hourcampfire Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Hop To BP-B2 IC-A B3 IC-B B4 RR1-22 Who's Online Now 828 members ( 10Glocks, 12344mag, 007FJ, 1911a1, 1100mag, 95 invisible), 2,340 guests, and 1,313 robots. IMR 4166 Enduron Grab some at your nearest dealer, or for more information, contact IMR Powder Company; Tel. bolt reload data with 65gr. OAL 2770 Sierra Case They are suitable for a wide variety of cartridges, from small varmint cartridges all the way up to the .338 Lapua Magnum. This powder is comparable to Hodgdon H4350. Working up a good hunting load with the 4166 Enduron and the Hornaday 150 gr GMX bullets for my 308. Thats because a change in temperature can affect the trajectory or flight path of the bullet in two well-known ways: 1. Learn more about Enduron powders at www.enduronimr.com. The pelletized form makes for faster reloads with pre-formed charges that easily drop down the barrel and is easy to pack without the need for measures or funnels. .223 Rem. The main features of the Enduron series are copper fouling eliminator, insensitivity to temperature changes, ideal loading density and being environmentally friendly. In rifles, this powder delivers excellent velocity and accuracy in such cartridges as the 22 Hornet and 221 Fireball. If you commonly use Varget, Alliant Reloder 15, Norma 203B, IMR 8208 XBR, or Vihtavuori N140, you might want to try IMR 4166. Being one of the easiest people in the industry to talk to, a secret this guarded certainly sparked my curiosity, so I made sure to order a test sample. Site Notices. Once they had a couple dozen rounds loaded with each powder, they went and shot them with each powder at 25 F, 65 F, and 140 F. The muzzle velocity of each shot was recorded using both a LabRadar Doppler Radar and a MagnetoSpeed Chronograph. Good luck. I don't see any info for the A-Max though. Trail Boss is based on new technology that allows very-high loading density, good flow through powder measures, stability in severe temperature variation, and, most importantly, additional safety to the handloader. I didn't want to like this stuffI figured I was likely buying marketing hype for $31/lb at my LGS. Loads case to bottom of bullet, clean burning, very consistent, accurate results with no flyers, flows thru powder measure with a. (SEE: Temperature Effects On Zero on KestrelMeters.com.). The results were very interesting, to say the least. DuPont had historically been a major supplier of military propellants long before becoming one of the handloaders favorite powders. I have had good luck with 4166 in .223 bolt rifles. This propellant performs comparably to Hodgdon H4350 but charge weights are materially different. I live in florida and shoot the same load all year. Will purchase more. CC 300 BLK ($53.49 per box of 20), Law Tactical Gen 3-M AR Folding Stock Adapter, 2022 Editors Choice Award Winning Silencer Central Banish Backcountry Suppressor. IMR 4955 is a medium burn speed powder, falling in between IMR 4451 and IMR 7977 in burn speed. I've only seen a handful of load data for IMR 4166 and 223, it was 69 Sierra and 77 Sierra. Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. spitzer boat tail & imr 4166, .223 rem. Precision shooters will find an Enduron option well-suited to most popular precision cartridge types. This included the top-of-the-line Prometheus Gen II Powder Scale, which is capable of loading to the nearest kernel of powder. Find load data for IMR 4955 Enduron propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:IMR Enduron 4955 is a versatile, match-grade propellant with a mid-range burn speed that is in between IMR4451 and IMR7977. 3, tried this powder and same bullet in the grandson's Ruger77 .223. The main features of the Enduron series are copper fouling eliminator, insensitivity to temperature changes, ideal loading density and being environmentally friendly. IMRs press release states: IMR 4166 [has] a perfect burn speed for cartridges like the 308 Win/7.62mm NATO, 22-250 Remington, 257 Roberts and dozens more.. I'm using this in my Tikka CTR 223 under 73 gr Berger BT target bullets. Choose a IMR powder and find the respective load data for it. You are using an out of date browser. bolt reload data with 65 gr. So, I'd use it for loads listed by Hodgdon. Find load data for IMR 4831 propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:IMR 4831 has a slightly slower burn rate speed than IMR 4350. ARCHIVED. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Hodgdon Varget was the second least temperature sensitive powder in this test, with 46 fps of variance in muzzle velocity between temperatures of 25 F and 140 F. IMR 4166 performed very similar to Varget, and proved to be fairly insensitive to large swings in temperature. Find load data for IMR 4166 Enduron propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder". Posted by Christopher Brown on Apr 19th 2022. IMRs press release provides these descriptions of the new Enduron propellants: IMR 4166 is the first in the series of Enduron propellants. I use in 243 Win and 6.5 CM. IMR 7977 is the slowest burn rate Enduron Technology powder. Find load data for IMR 7828 SSC propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:IMR 7828 SSC is a magnum rifle powder with exactly the same burn rate as standard IMR 7828 and uses the same data. $40.99 - $270.99. Share the post "Powder Temp Stability: IMR Enduron vs. Hodgdon Extreme". The illuminated reticle made it very easy to see on the black target, and honestly was the first time I have ever had used the feature (now it may be hard to go back). 110 PCS pistol, 2022 Editors Choice Award Winning Ruger 5.7 LC Carbine, 2022 Editors Choice Award Winning Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical 12-gauge, Fiocchi Introduces New 5.7x28mm Subsonic Ammo, Lehigh Defense 115-gr. I have enough on hand to last for a while, but when I found some IMR 4166 available, I decided to try it for my MPA .308. To me that says Gebby got it right long ago. IMR 4166 is one of IMRs Enduron family of propellants.
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